Blu ray=>MKV

Here’s the correct link:

http://build.handbrake.fr/

Just keep in mind that, while the nightlies have additional bug FIXES, they’re not bug-resistant.   As there’s lots of changes (several per day, in some cases) your chance of encountering bugs is not insignificant.

That said, I use the nightlies, too…  :)

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Thanks for the info, Tony.

I’m still using 3154 – do you find any advantage in using a nightly over this?  I’ve had zero issues and hate to fix something which isn’t broken, but I don’t want to be missing out on something.

No, not particularly.   I just read thru the change logs, and if something sounds remotely related to my usage habits, I’ll load it.   Since they’re RPM-based for linux, I can move from one build to another relatively easily and quickly…

Cocovanna wrote:

 I tried a movie with a playlist (a 49 secs introduction followed by 1h33m), but Handbrake keeps “stop working” at the 0.19% point, corresponding to approx 10 secs

 

All right, I have narrowed the problem down … it happens when handbraking the introduction part (49 secs), 25%-33% dependent on the settings.

 

The conversion goes well, if I change the Advanced H.264 options “B-Frames” from 3 to 2 and “Adaptive B-Frames” from Optimal to Fast … it will be interesting to see, if the newer Handbrake build will fix that (otherwise I’ll have to use these reduced settings)

 

Cocovanna

Using HandBrake build 3154 works like a charm. I have no problems with the merged movie, and I have a working workflow for getting Blu rays to the Live. Kudos to Mike for his initial instructions and followup when I got stuck :smileyvery-happy:

And then I should learn to read, what the screen says … Converted the movie with two soundtracks (english/danish), and struggled for half an hour trying to figure out why the MKV file had no sound tracks (after 5 hours of conversion time) … just to recognize, that I can’t pass AC3 tracks through from DTS tracks … duh …

Cocovanna

In that particular case you don’t need to re-encode.  Let’s see if I can explain this simply.

Handbrake encodes the video.  In the case of blu-rays we’re simply passing through the audio tracks (and in actuality, only the core DTS or AC3 of the HD audio).  If for some reason you fail to do so (like you do, or perhaps you choose the wrong track by mistake, or later decide to have another track passed through) all is not lost. 

At that point you’d have a working MKV file (with some sort of audio track) but you’d still have your original tracks on the original blu-ray file (let’s say it’s one m2ts file to make it simpler).  So what you can do is to “get” the audio tracks and then remux them with the Handbraked MKV file (much, MUCH quicker than re-encoding – a matter of a few minutes).

Use txMuxer to strip out (demux) the audio tracks you want.  Then use mkvmerge to load in the Handbrake MKV file along with whatever audio tracks you stripped.  You’ll note in mkvmerge the option to convert HD tracks to “normal” DTS or AC3 – choose this (because the Live can’t play the HD tracks).  Then create the new MKV file.

Once you get comfortable with this process you’ll know a lot more about how audio and video tracks are constructed in containers, and it will seem very straightforward.

He – yeah, I found out of that, it’s so simple it is easy to overlook … thats why I choose the AC3 from DTS first, I was tired and just to get the conversion started overnight :slight_smile:

I didn’t know, MKVMERGE could convert HD tracks … nice to know.

Cocovanna

mkelley wrote:

  1. Load the m2ts file into (freeware) tsmuxer.  Eliminate all streams other than the PGS streams of the language you want.
  1. Demux the files (choose the Demux option).
  1. Use (freeware) BDESup2Sub to translate these files into IDX files
  1. Mux the IDX files and the MKV file (produced by Handbrake) into one MKV file using the (freeware) mkvmerge.

I just discovered that if the idx files is named the same as the input/output file, the subtitles are included by Handbrake automatically. Just make sure to make the idx file before handbraking. This eliminates the mkvmerge step. Edit: NO IT DOESN’T – but VLC grabs the subtitle automatically during my test drive … sigh … just forget this post :smiley:

Cocovanna

Just wanted to throw out there that I had always been a big fan of handbrake, but I’ve been using RipBot264 for a while now and couldn’t be happier.  I’m fairly sure (considering how old the “latest” version of handbrake is) that RipBot is using a newer version of x264 that allows it to actually encode at even lower bitrates without sacrificing quality.  Try it out (after decrypting, of course). 

Actually, Handbrake’s latest build is about yesterday (they do nightly builds and, so yes, they’ve been using the latest version of X264 for quite some time now – it first surfaced on the “official” release last September).

ACTUALLY,  their last “official” release was in November (11/23/2009), and it only uses the x264 build r1347 (versus r1471 that the last official version of ripbot uses).  And on that note, someone who is new to encoding is going to want something fairly easy and stable.  To quote their website in regards to nightly builds " They are only recommended for experienced users and developers".  A GUI user wanting to use nightly builds (that includes unstable and undocumented code) also has to download the WindowsCLI.  That’s just complicating things, and while it’s all fine and good for someone who isn’t “wet behind their ears” it’s not what I would personally recommend to someone just getting started.  Don’t get me wrong, I still like handbrake, and there are things I still use it for… I just like ripbot more for “everyday” encoding.  As a user of both, there is definitely a bit more control in some aspects with handbrake, but most of the time I don’t need that extra control.  I also find that there are a number of videos that if I encode in handbrake they may not play back correctly on the WD LIVE (even though they play back fine on the pc), though the same videos encoded via ripbot play perfectly.  Just trying to provide the right info so people can make informed decisions =)

Founder, how does RipBot’s speed compare with HandBrake?  (I’m one of the people who use a “Nightly” build, but I don’t update it unless there’s something in the release notes that pertains to me…)

Tony:  Speed isn’t something I’ve paid a lot of attention to.  Using a core2 duo e8400 (with everything at 64bit) my 1080p encodes average around 40 hours, but my settings are fairly high… cq18, --level 5.1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 5  --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1   --b-pyramid none --subme 10 --aq-mode 1 --trellis 2 --partitions all --me tesa (though I should note that if I’m not encoding from a blu ray or hddvd I just use umh, and don’t take the speed hit from using tesa… and if it’s animated I generally bump the bframes to 8).  Those encodes usually average around 8GB, but depending on the source material you may find one movie will hit 6GB (Batman Begins 2:20) and another of the same length (The Shining 2:23) may be 13GB.  Quality has only been the only thing important to me, and projecting these movies at 100" I’ve NEVER noticed any difference between my encodes and the source disc (and I’d like to think that I’m pretty **bleep** picky); in fact, when testing the various settings I frequently held “viewing parties” with various friends and family to make sure they didn’t notice anything I might have missed.  Now I would love any opinions or suggestions anyone might have in regards to my settings pertaining to the quality of the encode, but before someone asks me why I’m using high profile 5.1 I’ll go right ahead and say I have no reason whatsoever lol

:::edit:::

just wanted to note (since I was talking about efficiency before) that bumping cq from 18 to 22 (which I still couldn’t find any flaws in, I just wanted to be “safe” for when I upgrade to a better projector) the average 1080p encode is closer to 4GB

I’ve been using 20 – I *have* noticed a difference between 22 and 20 on my encodes, but I kind of think 18 is insane (not that there’s anything wrong with a little insanity from time to time).

Oh, and most of the Handbrake developers recommend using the latest builds – I have been for years and never had an issue (they just don’t want newbees coming to them with issues with them, which is why they have their “official” line).  You gain an awful lot by using builds past their “official” release.

How do we download programme  into external hard disk with MKV format?

Um, you’ll need to be a little more specific about what you’re asking here (or start your own thread – it’s okay, really).

Dear Mkelly,

i have portable hard disk 320GB i want copy movies from some other person hard dsik but I want to format as MKV in my external hard disk ?

That is all but I observe there is slightly deifference in the poster i mean the resulation of Blue blayer is excelletnt.

I think i am right or worng.

avatarneu wrote:

Dear Mkelly,

i have portable hard disk 320GB i want copy movies from some other person hard dsik but I want to format as MKV in my external hard disk ?

That is all but I observe there is slightly deifference in the poster i mean the resulation of Blue blayer is excelletnt.

I think i am right or worng.

Well, I suspect you’re right or wrong as well.

I’m really sorry but I am losing something here in the translation – either that or I’m an old man who’s easily confused.  If you just want to copy the movies, copy the movies (but do observe copyright law).  If you want to re-encode them as MKV files (and they aren’t already re-encoded) then use a program like Handbrake (freeware) to do so. 

if you’re asking (and here’s where I’m not at all sure what it is) if the resolution of the movie won’t be as good, I can only say that it’s up to you to make that decision.  I’ve done A/B blind tests and folks in my house cannot tell the difference between the original blu-ray disc and the MKV encoded copy (at RF 20) on my 9’ HD projection screen.

Dear MKelly,

I am also old man of age 52 do not know about computer software programme even I do not know what is MKV file.I also do not know Blue ray mkv I mentioned here Blue ray disk very expensive people downlload from internet paying by Credit card and sell to the other people very low price. Few people started to view by Media player from hard disk. But I have not decided to choose which one I suppose to go Media player or Blue ray .