Hi,
Has anyone use this DWA-160 rev A2 Ver 1.40 nic card and got it to work?
I think it might be the ver I have??? The firmware is up to date.
Thanks,
Hi,
Has anyone use this DWA-160 rev A2 Ver 1.40 nic card and got it to work?
I think it might be the ver I have??? The firmware is up to date.
Thanks,
I have 3 of the same models and none of them work. WD Rep told me that they’re only supporting Ralink chipset, so this card is not supported.
It appears that WD is just using forum members post as a means for adding new cards to their list without getting any rev or firmware information.
You might want to thank Bill_S for this!
http://community.wdc.com/t5/Firmware/D-Link-DWA-160-usb-support/m-p/26788/highlight/true#M2456
Great 70 bucks down the hole!! Good job WD…Good job WD!
Xtreme3D wrote:
I have 3 of the same models and none of them work. WD Rep told me that they’re only supporting Ralink chipset, so this card is not supported.
It appears that WD is just using forum members post as a means for adding new cards to their list without getting any rev or firmware information.
You might want to thank Bill_S for this!
http://community.wdc.com/t5/Firmware/D-Link-DWA-160-usb-support/m-p/26788/highlight/true#M2456
Wait a minute! How’d I end up blamed for this?
The issue here is that the DWA-160 that we tested is not the same one you’re using. This happens all the time with wireless dongles - the internals are changed, but the model number stays the same. Sometimes the revision changes, sometimes it doesn’t. This is unfortunate and frustrating but it is the nature of the wifi dongle market. We try to note the revision for the dongles we list as supported in our knowledge base.
The dongles and other devices listed as supported in the knowledge base have all been tested in our labs.
Bill_S wrote:
Xtreme3D wrote:
[snip]
You might want to thank Bill_S for this!
http://community.wdc.com/t5/Firmware/D-Link-DWA-160-usb-support/m-p/26788/highlight/true#M2456
Wait a minute! How’d I end up blamed for this?
…because you thanked a contributer for his comments. And don’t let it happen again! ;)
Bill_S wrote:
Xtreme3D wrote:
I have 3 of the same models and none of them work. WD Rep told me that they’re only supporting Ralink chipset, so this card is not supported.
It appears that WD is just using forum members post as a means for adding new cards to their list without getting any rev or firmware information.
You might want to thank Bill_S for this!
http://community.wdc.com/t5/Firmware/D-Link-DWA-160-usb-support/m-p/26788/highlight/true#M2456
Wait a minute! How’d I end up blamed for this?
Because on that post somebody said that the DWA-160 works and you said that you would pass it along.
It then appeared on the approved list. Xtreme3D is a tad upset because he has 3 of these and none work. He now is looking for somebody to blame and you are it.
Bill_S wrote:
Wait a minute! How’d I end up blamed for this?
I’m blamed you for not gathering any rev or firmware information on the DWA-160 before submitting it as a working card.
There’s no way that WD got a DWA-160 that has no revision, because even the 1st shipped DWA-160 was a rev A, and it wasn’t until the rev B that the rt2780 was used.
If you like proof just download the 1st shipped driver right off D-Link page. You’ll notice that the inf is for atheros chipset.
In the end though a WD Rep was able to help me out, and I’m glad to see that the note below the supported list was updated.
I talked with WD and they where willing to off set the cost for their site not having up to date info. I am happy with this and will buying WD stuff in the future.
So, what are the chances that DWA-160 will be compatible with the WD live?
Xtreme3D wrote:
There’s no way that WD got a DWA-160 that has no revision, because even the 1st shipped DWA-160 was a rev A, and it wasn’t until the rev B that the rt2780 was used.
You don’t know what you’re talking about. HERE’S PROOF, right from D-Links website: The first version shipped to US Markets has NO REVISION NUMBERS. I don’t know about the 70+ other countries that have their own web portals…
http://www.dlink.com/products/?tab=3&pid=DWA-160&rev=DWA-160
Here’s the download page for the DWA-160 1.00 SHIPPED DRIVER. Go ahead download the 1.00 SHIPPED DRIVER and look at he INF for yourself.
Here’s the cards supported right in the DWA-160 1.00 INF file, and this is what’s displayed right in DEVICE MANAGER.
DO YOU NOTICE THE REV.A?
ATHR.Service.DispName = “Atheros Wireless Network Adapter Service”
ATHR.DeviceDesc.9170 = “Atheros OTUS Wireless Network Adapter”
ATHR.DeviceDesc.5304 = “PCI GW-US300GXS”
ZCOM.DeviceDesc.0023 = “NB 802.11n BG Wireless LAN USB Adapter(UB81)”
ZCOM.DeviceDesc.0026 = “NB 802.11n ABG Wireless LAN USB Adapter(UB82)”
NTGR.DeviceDesc.9010 = “RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N USB Adapter”
DWA160.DeviceDesc = “D-Link DWA-160 Xtreme N Dual Band USB Adapter(rev.A)”
NTGR.DeviceDesc.9001 = “RangeMax NEXT Wireless-N USB Adapter WN111v2”
I’m sorry but your don’t know what your talking about. You might also notice that it’s for a Atheros chipset, which doesn’t work on the WD Media Player
XTreme, I’m not going to argue with you until you decide to argue only a single point. You say I am wrong about the argument, and as evidence, bring up something completely unrelated to your previous statement. That’s an argumental error called a Red Herring.
You said, “There’s no way that WD got a DWA-160 that has no revision.”
I just proved to you that they could have, as have many other people.
WD says they indicate driver compatibility by what’s marked on the adapter’s packaging.
D-LINK, as well, says that you examine the PACKAGE to see what revision you have.
The D-LINK webpage identifies that there are presently two forms of adapter.
A DWA-160
A DWA-160 Rev B.
THAT is what you’ll see on the package, DWA-160, meaning NO REVISION.
Thus, your point is directly and incontrovertibly disproved. Quod Erat Demonstratum. QED.
I don’t give a rat’s backside what the INF in the driver says. It is irrelevant.
A user going to a retailer to purchase a module is not going to crack open the box, load up the disk on the laptop, and see what the device manager tells them. They are going to do what both DLINK and WD say: LOOK AT THE LABEL.
Am I arguing that the “No Revision” version will always work? No. You’re attempting to push me into that corner, and I’m not going to go there
Your arguments are laced with fallacy; the most egregious of which was to accuse Bill of being responsible for the inclusion of the DWA-160 on the list.
That fallacy is called Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc. “After that, therefore because of that.” Any conclusion based on such a flawed premise is thus also flawed.
Now. I understand your frustration. You’ve made your point. Now, let’s move on and be constructive, shall we?
@TonyPh
It’s completely related because the driver clearly shows rev.A listed. Just because D-Link didn’t bother to add the rev.A to the link doesn’t make you right. If your right then rev.A users wouldn’t even have a driver to load!
You don’t care what’s in the INF file, because YOUR WRONG AND YOU KNOW IT!
My original statement is there is no such thing as a no revsion card, and again looking at even the 1ST SHIPPED DRIVER it’s becomes very clear that DWA-160 was originally shipped as Rev.A card.
Let’s try something else. The DWA-160 was only add recently, so how likely is it that WD scored a no revsion card 2 years after it’s release when there’s rev B2 and A2 going around? How is it that only 3 weeks later after Bill_S submitted a DWA-160 with no revsion or firmware, that this no revsion card is now mysteriously added to the list?
It doesn’t take someone smart to put 2 and 2 together an see what happened, but if I have to draw a picture for you…
Xtreme3D wrote:
Let’s try something else. The DWA-160 was only add recently, so how likely is it that WD scored a no revsion card 2 years after it’s release when there’s rev B2 and A2 going around? How is it that only 3 weeks later after Bill_S submitted a DWA-160 with no revsion or firmware, that this no revsion card is now mysteriously added to the list?
It doesn’t take someone smart to put 2 and 2 together an see what happened, but if I have to draw a picture for you…
Here you go again accusing me of mysteriously changing something.
First of all, nothing gets added just based on my recommendation. All of the devices go through testing with our engineering department, and if they pass, then they’re added to the compatibility list. If, once we pass something for use, the manufacturer changes something on the device that causes it to no longer work, it will appear that we are giving you wrong infomation. We’re not. We’re giving you what we know at the moment. However, once we find out there is an issue, we will remove or update the device on our compatibility list. Which is what happened.
New info added to the approved list:
Adapter | Model | Version/Revision |
New! D-Link Xtreme N dual band USB adapter | DWA-160 | Not Listed* |
*If your Wireless adapter has a revision number on the box, the product may be a newer revision than what was validated and may not work. The tested device did not have a version number listed for the hardware on the box or the device. Wireless suppliers have a history of changing the actual hardware (the electronics design and chip), but keeping the model numbers the same and adding a revision level on the box and/or the device.
Right. Driver INF mumbo jumbo aside, what X is having such a hard time saying is, “even the DWA-160 with no revision shown on the box does not work, so, even though that sheet has been updated, it’s still incorrect.”
(Actually, what he HAS been saying is that there’s no such thing as a DWA-160 with no revision printed on the box.)
I do agree with his ANALYTICS, in that the DWA-160 initial hardware is likely an Atheros chipset and will not work.
In this case, I do believe WD may be erring; it’s more likely the DWA-160 Rev Bx devices ARE working, and the others are NOT (this is evidenced by quite a few rational folks on other forums.)
A person on another forum says that Atheros chipsets were first supported in the pre-release 1.02.09 which became the current release 1.02.21.
http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2356.45
“In the last prerelease 1.02.19 officially have included support for new wireless devices namely the TP-LINK TL-WN821N (Atheros chipset) now works perfectly, which is not done with previous FW.”
This person says he also got a Atheros chipset to work.
http://community.wdc.com/t5/Networking/Wireless-USB-Not-being-recognized/m-p/24594#M2179
I too have this same card and can’t get this thing working with my WD TV Live Plus.
Only reason I’m even using this stupd card is because WD is too cheap to use a gigabit nic instead of a 10/100.
Number one: WD didn’t really design the network interface. That’s a component of the Sigma processor inside the WDTV. So, yes, WDTV could have used a higher-powered Sigma processor that includes 10/100/1000, but that would have increased costs substantially, which leads to:
Number two: Gigabit would be worthless. The device isn’t capable of handling traffic higher than 40-50mbps anyway.
So go back to wired, if that’s your only reason.